I've decided to take the advice of some of the admin on here and start up a thread that will hopefully one day become an all encompassing source of information on everything Dragon Magick/Draconic Tradition related.

First let me state this, I do not claim to know everything about Dragons nor do I claim power over them. I am simply someone who has had a passion for these astral beings for a long time. I am some what new to the realm of Dragon Magick/Draconic Tradition but I am learning more and more every day and hope to continue to learn as time goes by.

So let's begin. First, let me make you all aware that yes there are other threads on here that offer up information about Dragon Magick/Draconic Tradition. In fact here are a couple of them:

http://www.magickaschool.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=15173

http://www.magickaschool.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=24148

http://www.magickaschool.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=29136

There is also another thread some where in the Scattered Leaves sub-forum but since you cannot post there and it doesn't seem the thread is there anymore anyway, I didn't see a point to mentioning it.

There are also numerous sites that cover this information as well. Here is one:

http://www.fox-moon.com/dragon.html

I like this site but others may not agree with it.

There are also two books that I have been reading that seem to be a valid source. These are Dancing With Dragons and Mystical Dragon Magick both by D.J. Conway.

Knowing these sources, please bare in mind that these are based on the personal experiences had by the individuals that wrote them. Dragons (especially western ones) have a long history of being mistreated and abused by humankind. They once roamed this physical plane freely and lived in the cirlce of life just like any other creature. However, after many years of being hunted down and disrespected and abused for their power, they have all but entirely retreated into the astral realm. Though you can still see them every now and again if they want you to, these wonderful and powerful companions have grown understandably wary of human contact.

Now, if you read the website source and the book source you will quickly hear/learn that Dragon Magick is just that, another form of magick. Some people like to refer to Dragon Magick as the Dragon path or the Draconic tradition of Wicca. D.J. Conway's books will tell you that those that practice Dragon Magick do not refer to themselves as Witches but as Magicians. You can interprut this however you like. This is how I interprut it. If you believe soley in Dragon Magick and practice only that, then you would be a pagan that practices Dragon Magick. If you are a pagan that focuses on the Goddess and the God or whatever other Deities you like, but would like to incorporate or ask for help from Dragons then you are a Wiccan practicing the Draconic Tradition. As I said, there is no clear cut answer on this so interprut it how you will.

I am going to give as much information here as I can. Some will be information from the sources that I have cited. Other information will be from personal experience. I will do my best to make sure you, the reader, are aware of which is which.

So on with the Show...

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SHORT INTRODUCTION AND HISTORY

Honestly Eidolon Moon does an ok job on her Foxmoon site of going over history and an intro but I wanted to give some finer points that I learned from Conway's Dancing with Dragons because, honestly, Dragons can be tempramental and are very wary about giving up any really solid information until a pretty strong bond has developed. That being said, Conway and Moon's information may be correct in that, they were given that exact information but incorrect in truth because the Dragon that gave it to them was either playing with them or didn't trust them. For instance, Conway gives a set of what she calls Dragon Script in Dancing with Dragons that she says came to her in meditation. If you look up Dragon Script online or Dragon Runes you will find a myriad of responses. Personally, I think the only ones that hold validity are Conway's script

http://books.google.com/books?id=fg8hUMJlTT0C&pg=PA283&lpg=PA283&dq=conway+Dragon+script&source=bl&ots=JubnveJLvP&sig=u2KERPTFZa3d6xCpNZi1mSDMpzg&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false

and Isedon Goldwing's runes.

http://www.dragon-runes.com/Wiki/index.php?title=Image:MainRunes.gif

For Conway's stuff just click on the link the index for the Dragon Script.

The first thing you must realize is that Dragons do exist. They may no longer frequent this portion of the multiverse/dimension/plane/whatever you want to call it. Conway goes into detail in Mythical Dragon Magick about the scientific backing for the existence of alternate planes of existence and the existence of Dragons. I will post that portion of it here if I can get permission from Ms. Conway to do so. Until then just know that is has something to do with different vibrations and a comparision to dark matter.

The next thing you must realize is that, more than likely, you were socialized by your parents and/or guardians in a certain way so as to dismiss things of the astral nature. Before involving yourself with pretty much any type of Magick but more so Dragons, you need to take a hard look at youself and find out whether or not you truely believe or if there is some lingering negative programming that you have instilled in you that needs to be done away with. Now, understand that just because you say to yourself that you believe Dragons exist doesn't mean you truely believe it. Dragons have a very acute sense of truth. No matter how well you may lie to yourself or others, you will never be able to hide your true intentions from an astral being like a Dragon. Ask yourself if you truely believe they exist and then aske yourself what your real reasoning is for wanting to make contact with Dragons. Remember that too often in the past, Dragons have dealt with humans that tried to enslave them and abuse them for their power. Conway uses the term "co-magician." I think it's a perfectly acceptable term though Moon says that they should be seen more as friends then powerful co-workers. I personally don't see magick as "work" per say so I don't see how "co-magician" is synonomous with co-worker but to each his/her own.

That's about it for the short history and intro. As I said, if you want some more EM has a great write up on her site. I won't copy/paste it here because I don't want to take away from people visiting her site nor do I have permission to do so. Also, if you really feel this path calling to you, I highly suggest picking up Conway's Dancing with Dragons. It's been a tremendous help to me. Just realize that when you're reading Conway's book, that she is coming from the perspective of someone who is using Dragon Magick in purity. If you're looking for someone who is going more by the "Draconic Tradition" I recommend focusing on Moon's site.

Personally, on my path, I'm going to read both and meditate on it. No one knows better what you should know then the Dragons themselves.

Next time, tools used in Dragon Magick.

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I am already enjoying myself with this thread. With just the brief two posts, I learned a lot. I've been dying to learn more about Dragons, but never knew where to start (you know how the internet can be). Since I trust you, Draco, I now have sources to go to, yourself included! I look forward to learning more and maybe trying some meditations and things for myself!

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Today is tools. You'll notice that the tools used in Dragon Magick are not that much different from those used in "Traditional" Wicca.

Altar Candles
Altar Cloth
Athame
Bell
Book of Shadows (BoS)
Boline
Bowl
Candle Snuffer
Chalice
Charcoal
Guardian Candle
Grimoire
Pen & Ink
Pentacle
Robe
Sash
Staff
Statues
Sword
Tarot Cards
Thurible or Censer
Wand

I'm not going to copy paste from Eidileon Moon's site so you can read there if you want to know the finer details on each of these items and what element they represent. However, I do want to cover a few more that may not be common in detail as well as add a couple.

The ones you see listed here are explained in detail by Eidelon Moon on her site. In D.J. Conway's Dancing with Dragons she goes into detail about some other items. These items are the mirror, the pendulum, a dragon pentacle, and though it is mentioned in Eidileon's site, Conway places great emphasis on the Robe. Conway does into a lot of detail about the negative programming that is instilled in a lot of people that don't have magick in their family line. She emphasizes the robe and adorments to the robe (i.e. cords tied around the waist and such) to get the practicioner to increase their self-confidence that they can perform magick. In conjunction with your magickal name use and wear of the robe is almost like a ceremonial tranformation. A way of assuming your magickal self as preparation for a ritual. This helps the witch/magician to cast off their "worldly" self and assume their magickal self in an effort to perform ritual and gain more confidence in their magickal abilities. Because the truth is, if you don't believe you can perform magick, you can't. I don't know who said this quote but it's probably one of the best ones out there. "Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right"

However, some things to realize about some of these tools is that they are used to address a Dragon. Particularly the sword, athame, and wand. This items are NEVER to be pointed at a Dragon in a threatening or controling manner. A Dragon is never yours to control, manipulate or command. They are here to learn from and gain support from. But in the same vein you should always try to present yourself as confident and self assured. Any astral being, particularly Dragons can sense a lack of self confidence in a magician/witch.

Hear is something to consider until next time. Dragons are rarely seen making a physical appearance outside of the astral plane. Rare sightings of legendary creatures such as the Lochness monster. What do you think are the odds that Nessie, as he affectionately called, is a sea/water Dragon?

Next time, something you may not have heard of or thought about before.... Dragon's breath in the earth.

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Yo its me agian. Do you mind if i add a bit?

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No, feel free to add, just make sure you signify the difference between knowledge from a source (and be sure to cite it) and personal experience.

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Well yal Draco covered a lot of things that are book and source based so ill add a little personal sauce to this dish. I work with dragons and they are with out a doubt great friends and allies. They are a proud group of beings at least the few i work with do. They can add an amazing boost to your life but deserve your respect. Yanece is the wisdom dragon that works with me. She has a huge mass of knowledge that she shares with me and one ritual in particularly is odd. It called blood to blood promise. It is a very ancient ritual using blood from two people who seal a promise between each other by cutting their hands and holding their hands together as the promise is made. She told me it is for a best friend and a great promise not everyone can or should do this. How it was found by her i dont know but it is special how much a dragon was willing to share with me.

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Well Dancer, I must say, in my readings and experience I've never heard of a Dragon ever taking a blood oath with a human. I must say I'm impressed with how much that Dragon trusts you. After centuries of being hunted and abused Dragons don't typical allow that kind of closeness.

Kudos to you.

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She is a great being. she loves me and cares greatly for me greatly. I still have the scar from it.

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it is a scar of love though.

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Ok now that I have some time and my notes in front of me we can talk about Dragon's Breath in the earth. Some people call them ley lines, the Chinese called it sha, European dowsers called them "black streams." Basically, they are lines of powerful energy found in the earth. The eb and flow of these lines and their energy are the basis for the Chinese are of Feng-shui. These lines are more commonly known and study in Europe than they are in the US but they are slowly coming up. These lines are every where. Some people think it's powerful energy from Dragon's others think it's just powerful energy period. Some believe that these lines of power have a degree of Dragon's blood in them which helps to amplify this power. When one of these lines is out of balance the area near the lines or the particular spots where these lines rise close enough to the surface to have a huge effect (called power spots) the surronding area is affected majorly. There are a few spots that speak of Dragon's blood being spilled and make the land in that area infertile. Some people call these Dragon Hills. One such prominents spot is actually called Dragon Hill which lies just below the White Horse at Uffington in Berkshire, England. A simple google search of Dragon Hill Uffington will give you results for images and additional information.

Christianity had a habit of finding these power spots and buidling churches over them to either use the power or keep it away from others. These spots can be pretty much any where. If you've ever seen a church out in the middle of nowhere that is so far from a town that it's ridiculous or a chapel off in the middle of the woods some where no wheres near a town, there is a good chance there is a power spot there. These power spots could be any where even in your back yard. Using a dowsing rod or pendulum are two ways to help you find these spots. There is one such place in the US that some claim is a major power spot called the Oregon Vortex. At this location there is an old assay shack that many people have reported to have some very heavy energies. Author D.J. Conway claims that she visited this location and brought a pendant with her. She said that around the area there was really noting but a shaky pendant but when she stuck the hand holding the pendant into the window of the old assay shack the pendant came straight back in a line almost touching her arm. Some people have said that magnetic fields are at work there but seeing as how a crystal pendulum has little to no medal in it, magnet is not an explanation for such an occurance. The only explanation is a severely heavy power spot.

So now your asking what do I do when/if I find a power spot or a spot where nothing seems to grow, or a place where animals won't go near. Well if you have any of the latter event occur there is a good chance that the "black stream" or Dragon's Breath, or ley line is out of balance. You can try staking the stream back into balance but be careful for power line and water lines and such. If you find a power spot that is in balance you can channel this energy to a central point by creating a spiral with stones going counter-clockwise from the center, out. I recommend making this spiral big enough to walk in between or sit in the middle of. Using some sort of flat stone in the middle as a power sink is ideal. Conducting rituals at these power spots can help your spells and rituals greatly.

Now it's time for a little personal experience. My infant has a habit of crying whenever he isn't being held by his mother. However, there is one particular spot in our house that when I'm carrying him, I can walk to and he will stop crying almost instantly. There are no shiney objects for him to look at, no view of the outside to be amazed at. Nothing to really look at, at all. I am in firm belief that there may be a power spot there and my infant is capable of feeling it and that it helps to calm him down.

Ok. That's it for today. I have to actually do some work now. Hope you all find this interesting. Please feel free to discuss on here or another thread power spots and your experiences. In fact I think I'll create that thread now.

Next time, two things to cover, The Magickal Personality, this is kind of just a quick idea on it, and Dragons in regards to music and dance.

Dragons Be With You (DBWY)

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Ok so today we're going to cover a little about the Magickal Personality and Music and Dance with regards to Dragons.

I'm sure there are other places on this forum where this is discussed but I wanted to bring it up on this topic because how you carry yourself within you Magickal personality is crucial to your work and attractiveness to Dragons. Most of the time, as long as you present yourself as a confident person of reasonable nature, Dragons will be willing to work with you. Your Magickal personality and your confidence while in it is important. Dragons are drawn to confidence. To build confidence in yourself and your Magickal abilities there are few things you can try. When preparing for a ritual, getting dressed in clothes specifically set aside only for ritual and Magick helps you get in tune with your Magickal personality. Knowing your Magickal name is also helpful. So people have a name that calls to them. Some books state that a Magickal name should/usually consist of a color and an animal. Still others say that it can be discovered by the use of numerology. By taking the numbers of your birth date

e.g. 04/05/1984

and adding the single digits together until you recieve a single digit number.

e.g. 0+4+0+5+1+9+8+4 = 31 then 3+1 = 4

you use the following chart to find out what the first letter of your Magickal name could be:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
A B C D E F G H I
J K L M N O P Q R
S T U V W X Y Z

In her book Dancing With Dragons, D.J. Conway states that she was always taught to leave 11 and 22 alone as those particular numbers have special meanings, although I don't know how that would play into figuring out your letter. She also states you can use this numbering system sort of in reverse. If you have your Magickal name already, you may be able to find some kind of lucky number by adding the numbers of your name down to a single digit in a similar manner:

e.g.
D R A C O
4 9 1 3 6

4+9+1+3+6 = 23 2+3 = 5

For some people the number will match. Some they don't. Not a big deal.

D.J. Conway also goes on to explain that each number has certain characteristics associated with them. As I don't have copyrights to her book and cannot seem to contact her, I will not post that information on here. However, if you would like to know the information please feel free to PM me. Lastly in the Magickal personality portion, when you do have your name or even when you're trying to figure it out, try putting on your ritual clothes (or if you go skyclad do so ) and try saying to yourself in the mirror "I am [insert Magickal name here]. I am a magician [or witch if you prefer] and friend to Dragons." Say that a few times until you become comfortable with it. If you don't feel right saying that to yourself maybe that's not the name for you.


Dragons and music and dance. As I have stated before, Dragons can be playful creatures sometimes to a fault. This being said, Dragons adore music and dance. Have you ever been "in the moment" while you dancing and felt what may have been something around your ankles or neck or something swirling around you? There is a good chance it was a Dragon enjoying the dance and music with you. You may have a guardian Dragon that is watching over you and enjoying the music and dance with you, or you just may have some young scamp rouge Dragons that want to play. Either way, dance and music have always been a big part of the Magickal world and working with Dragons is no exception to that.

That's it for today. Next time, we will discuss the conduct of a basic ritual involving Dragons.

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Just so you guys know the next topic is coming. I had actually just finished typing it all in and hit submit but apparently I had taken to long and had gotten logged out. I don't have the time right now to re-type the whole thing so just know that it's coming.

Thanks for your patience!!

Draco

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Well it looks like timing is not with me. I don't have my notes so I won't be able to update this section any time soon sadly. I will however, be trying to take this time to try out some really stripped down rituals to see what comes of them. Considering my current environment, I don't know how it will work out. But as soon as I can get my notes sent to me I will start updating this again. I will say I have gotten a couple PM responses in regards to this topic and I'm honored to have people come to me on the topic.

Dragons Be With You!

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