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 Post subject: Welcome to the Alchemy Group
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:41 pm 
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Hello from Marcus

If you have started the exercises in the Alchemy course, then please do post your results here, or questions. If you are interested in some aspect of the academic material, please do raise questions!

The approaches to 'alchemy' mean there isn't really one such thing as 'alchemy'; for example, early chemistry includes 'alchemy', but this is very different to Chinese Taoist Alchemy, or Jungian perspectives on Alchemy! So we should be open to many interpretations and keep an open mind!

Please also do consider purchasing the book as a paperback version from LULU. Not only will it make an excellent reference guide on your shelf, it's a good way to support the research and time that went into the months producing the course and testing out the experiments!

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Ive ordered the book today from LULU.


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 Post subject: The Alchemical Amphitheatre Book
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Hello Red Dragon

Thank you for your support; it's appreciated! I also think having a book is a lot better than PDFs as you can scrawl your own notes over it! LOL.

The research in the book is from two years worth of Masters-level academic work, and the experiments and praxis meditations are from thirty-years experience, so a lot of work went into the book!

I also look forward to improving it in the light of any feedback anyone has to offer, so I'll look forward forward to further posts as you consider the material and work through the exercises and experiments!

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 Post subject: Hey =)
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I'm in too :) Also ordered the text...and I even have a study buddy to work with.

A question though..will there be posted exams or not?


Oh and what is your personal opinion of Jung?....my cousin said all of his theories have been proven to be bull...lol at least thats his view. :roll:
I've only recently found interest in his writings so I have no thoughts on them as of yet...just here to pick your brain :)

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 Post subject: Response to Exams
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Hi Celestial

I'll set up a new thread for Jung and Alchemy if I may, as it's an important subject within the whole study of alchemy.

There won't be any exams for this course, as it is based on personal meditations and alchemical experiment, which cannot be examined.

However, we can certainly discuss what you should be expected to know as a result of the course, as that'll help me work out if the course is achieving its aims!

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I downloaded the book last evening and scanned through all of it with lots of enthusiasm. I'm going to start the first experiment tonight. Although I have had experiences with salt and other minerals getting moisture into them and hardening. Not fun to break up for cooking. LOL I can't wait to get to the second experiment too. Somewhat impatient! LOL I will keep in touch with my findings and thoughts.

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Yes Markus another thread may be a good idea :)


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:( Okay, it's been 5 days since I started the experiment with the salt and nothing has happened. I have it sitting in my kitchen next to my stove as I am a avid tea drinker and use a tea pot. :? I also have a humidifier going 24/7. Is this normal or could it be because I used medium sea salt?

Now, if I didn't want it to absorb moisture it would have! LOL

Maybe I haven't waited long enough for something to start happening and I don't plan on moving it until I've completed the 30 day period, I just thought I would have seen some changes before now. I wonder if all my green babies (plants) are hording all the humidity? LOL

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 Post subject: The First Salt Experiment
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Hi Silva

Firstly, many thanks for posting your initial observations, it's appreciated! I've started a new thread for this first module, so I'll also post this reply there and we can continue on in the other thread, please!

The important thing about all these experiments is that we undertake them in order to achieve an 'alchemical' perspective. That's to say, the things we observe we take as lessons for our lives.

So, here's some questions that you may like to consider:

1. You say maybe you haven't waited long enough - and that you are prepared to wait for 30 days. How does this feel to you? Is it a common experience of your life that you express your 'patience' (or 'faith') in this way? Does that apply to all your experiences and approach to life? Relationships, Religion, Work, Education?

[You don't have to answer that here in public, of course! It's for you to consider as part of this experiment]

2. If the experiment doesn't work as suggested, what will that mean to you? That it doesn't work, that you did it incorrectly, or that you aren't somehow 'ready' inside yourself to receive the result?

3. Or perhaps it not working as suggested *is* the result?!

4. Other than that, calcination is a process of a 'slow and steady fire' which tests the alchemist and prepares them for later work when this gentle heat is required to get results and respond to later experience.

5. Perhaps you are right - the salt needs to be placed somewhere else. What would that mean? That to 'draw things out', not only do you need the right material, but it has to go where the 'invisible' water is likely to be. Again, how does that apply to other things in life? When you want to get something out into the open, how do you go about it? Is there always an 'appropriate place and time' to do it? How do you know where to draw something out if you don't know what it is or where it is?

6. Perhaps you are right - the plants are utilising the moisture in the air. Again (you'll see the theme here now!) what does that teach us about life in general? If you are surrounded by events/people/objects that are draining the invisible energy that you wish to attract to yourself, what does *that* mean to you?

I hope those ideas give you some new approaches to how these experiments may be viewed as 'exemplars' of Universe and Life. There are no failed experiments :-) only Life and Learning.

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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to the Alchemy Group
 Post Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 2:26 pm 
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I was planning on going through the material without posting, but I did have some questions over the second experiment. The first one went well, with growing the salt crystals. They are actually sitting at the earth part of my altar for the Temple of Fortuna worship services, which are now on video at YouTube.

I live in the desert in So. California, and the experiment worked fine. I had to keep adding water because of the dryness in the air in my climate, and the whole thing was sitting in my window. So, my guess, is perhaps the person who had difficulties with this experiment had too much moisture going on and the salt actually didn't have a chance to solidify.

My question is over the second experiment. I've tried it twice, thinking that the suspended crystal was supposed to grow larger within the solution. The first time, I chose a smaller crystal and tied it with the nylon thread. It wasn't fishing line. It was nylon thread used for bead-making. But it has the same or similar properties as fishing line so should work just as well.

Unfortunately, it did not work as well. It would be a shame to have to go out and purchase fishing line when beading cord should work just as well. What happened is the crystal fell off the line and absorbed into the solution. But there were globs of salt just about everywhere else, so I collected these up and figured that it showed prosperity, just in an unexpected way, and moved onto the next lesson.

Then, I tried it again with a giant crystal that had a small hole in the middle of it. Suspended it, everthing seemed to work great. Noticed there was a little salt attracted to the back side (the side that was closest the sponge), and felt I had succeeded with the experiment. THen, about a week or two into the experiment, I checked again and the huge salt crystal had entirely absorbed back into the solution.

What I have decided is that I am being told that the salt wishes to be absorbed into the solution. I am not sure what these means from an alchemical standpoint, but I believe it has something to do with death before birth. We must all go back to a previous form before being born anew. I should mention, I am using sea salt, not salt from earth. So, perhaps, this is a sign that the experiment was actually completed successfully. Even though it did not give the expected results.

I am a vegetarian, so I'm not much into buying fishing line.

Is there another way to do this experiment so that it will get the expeceted results?

Or, do I just satisfy myself with getting 5 of 6 lessons done well? That's 83% and still a passing grade.

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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to the Alchemy Group
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i see no one has posted in a long time. but i will post any ways. I have always been intrigude about alchemy.and scintific break down of components and mixing diffrent things in a balance to acheave something that is new or at least new in the aspect it was just created also the balance of all things passing in time space and life and death the balance that is all around and with out the balance any and all things would ceece to exsits. I am just not going to start reading the moduals and I hope that there will be atleast one other person on here that will go threw this great jurney or has compleated this task that i might get some gidence or at least a friend in the same belief as mine.

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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to the Alchemy Group
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dj How's the weather in Modesto? (I have to mapquest it, I know you're in California, is Modesto up north??? )

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